I really hope you don't go on with quitting but if you must I will gladly preserve your account.

meetball, don't quit dude, play clan games with us and you won't find hackers. Also try not to play in hacker populated servers (Golf and Papa) and that's why I play in Bravo and Foxtrot.

But if there is no hope in persuading you with staying, I understand, though I'd really like to have you in Ninjas as a clan officer and a clan mate.

if you are looking for someone to keep your account, I'm here and don't worry I won't mess with it, just in case if you ever decide to come back again to nexon (I'd have your account preserved for you) and also, since I had my account hacked (I have my perm guns gone) then I will play on your account and try to rank it up for you (that if you want of course), or you can give it to soldi too, he is good too, so it doesn't really matter as long as it is in safe hands (trust clan mates other than outsiders).

Still, give it a thought before you quit and please stay in this game, not for nexon but for ninjas and remember once you are a clan officer and have a NiN tag, you don't have to play with ninjas in just nexon's CA but we play 10 other games too and feel free to get transferred to any of the ninjas elite clan divsions we have in other games. PM me so I can give you a whole list of the other clan divisions we have in other games we play (the Ninja Clans Club Network Gaming Association, the NCCN website is still under maintenance and that's why I can't give you their website url yet but that's where you can apply for any ninjas elite clan division in any of the other games we play). We play Strategy, Action and FPS games, PM me to give you detailed list and information and the good thing is (all games are free to play and you don't have to pay for anything since you are a clan officer "yet to be" of Ninjas Elite - the CA clan division)

Stick with the clan and your fellow ninjas and you won't have hackers following you. We always have clan gaming and practice rooms in Bravo Ch 6 or 8 (with elite mode on and it will always say Ninjas of CA). That's why people join clans, to have other clannies back them up and have their backs when needed, especially if this clan is a pro and a committed active clan like Ninjas Elite. We are glad to have your back and if you feel you are alone in game and need someone to join your room, just say it in clan chat and we will join your game.

There is a saying that says

"Never mess with a Ninja, especially if you are a hacker"

I know it's sad to lose a member or to leave a clan, but I'd just like to make sure you're all aware that account sharing is against the Nexon ToS.

Just make sure that you don't get banned for helping a friend; let them level their own accounts.

@ meetball, I don't get what you just said lol.

@ion, you got a point but who is nexon to decide what we ninjas do or do not do. We play 15 different games with 15 Ninjas Elite clan divisions established in every single one of them and CA btw is crappiest game of all. Nexon is lucky to a Ninjas Elite and a Ninja Clans Club Network Gaming Association "NCCN" clan division of ours in their game xD

http://www.nexon.net/legal/terms-of-use/

Ion, it isn't account sharing if he is quitting. If he ever comes back then we will stop going on his account (and that is if we do [out of respect]). There isn't any harm done to nexon by doing this, besides losing another source of money of which I am assuming they don't really care about right now because of their disinterest in taking an effort to patch the game of hacks (or stopping their own hack site). If this is against ToS, it certainly isn't the worst thing that can be done, and there is no harm done to the community.

@ meetball, yeah it is a good movie and I really love watching movies that involves action, fire and stuff like that lol.

Pure adrenaline and that's why I play CA with our Ninjas Elite Clan division here most of the time, than with any of our other Ninjas Elite clan divisions in other games (mostly startegy games like bfme and command and conquer and we already have clan divisions established there).

CA is the only FPS game, that Ninjas Elite does have a clan division within but that will change. We are expanding to MW2, BF3, HALO 3 and Sudden attack too.

I'll request from the Ninja Clans Club Network Gaming Association "The NCCN" to include those ninjas elite clan fps gaming divisions as members of the Ninjas Elite clan- NCCN gaming division with the network.

The NCCN, does have at least a network of 15 member clans and ninjas elite is one of those member clans and every clan does have their own gaming clan divisions networks playing different games (I only know of Ninjas Elite but not all the rest of the other networked clans with the NCCN because I'm the head of the Ninjas Elite clan division only in the NCCN)

The NCCN network head command, are working on renewing their clan website, forums, systems and everything, so I can't really list all the clans networked within the NCCN and what games they play here on forums until I have all the details (Also, some of those clans are established worldwide in other countries, especially france and england and they are super competitive in tournament leagues of the games they play. So obtaining such information will be really hard for me). I'm helping them with the reconstruction of their website, so once they have it ready I'll tell you and it will be easier after that to learn more about NCCN in details.

Most of the NCCN head command members are real life friends of mine (so I know them personnally and I also, helped start the NCCN too)

If you want to stick with just the Ninjas Elite - NCCN clan gaming division (our own ninjas elite clan divisions network that we have just for ninjas elite in general) and apply for a fellow ninjas elite clan in another game we play like the same clan division we have here in CA. I can give you all the details you need and all the games we are currently active at.

We used to have 10 ninjas elite clan divisions in 10 different games (only one platform: PC Games. We need to expand to Xbox but that will cost money and it will be hard to find members to join our ninja clans)

Games we play and used to play:

1- Combat Arms (Currently active)

In Combat Arms we used to have a inner inter-connected mini Ninjas Elite Clans but only the mother clan (our clan) is the only one left. NiN-Soldi used to be the leader of NINJAS ELITE II when he ranked up in clan rank to a coleader a year ago, but he failed in maintaining the clan and it was terminated. This was the same with the rest of all of our CA Ninjas Elite clans we had (out of 10 CA Ninjas Elite clans we used to have in over 3 years now, only one remains; this clan (the main clan division in CA that is affiliated with the Ninjas Elite Gaming division in the NCCN. So Yay ))

2- Command and Conquer Generals (Currently Active)

3- Command and Conquer Generals Zero Hours (Currently Active)

4- Battle for Middle Earth II (Currently Active)

5- Stronghold: Crusaders (Currently Active)

6- Stronghold: Crusaders Extreme (Currently Inactive)

7- Army Men: RTS (Currently Inactive)

8- Halo: Outreach (Currently Inactive)

9- Command and Conquer: Red Alert (Currently Inactive)

10- Fifa (Currently Inactive)

All of these games (all of them startegy except for CA and Halo; FPS), we used to and still have Ninjas Elite clan divisions in those games but our Ninjas Elite here in CA is the most modern and powerful clan division of all the clans in the Ninjas Elite - NCCN Gaming division, though the youngest , only 3 years old by now (we have a website, forums, youtube channel, newspaper,gsc and vent and wikipedia ... etc) but in the other clans (none of that does exist) because I spend most of my time here in CA and last time I went to help the Ninjas Elite clan division we have in bfme "Battle for Middle Earth" , NiN-Soldi messed up the clan as a coleader and we lost our CA alliances (example: Motivation, ask Ion, he knows and he was there too ), and 70 % of the clan members were kicked, inactive.. etc and more but he is better now and more trained with a higher clan nx salary of 10,000 nx instead of 5000 nx. So he will do better this time as a co leader and a clan leader in my place here in Ninjas Elite Clan of CA when I leave and spend time with another Ninja Clan of ours in another game).

All the Ninjas Elite clan divisions we have in all the games we play do have the same clan system we have here in the CA- Ninjas Elite clan division, hence they are all Ninjas Elite clans.

So, if you decide to go on vacation from CA and spend some time playing another game that Ninjas Elite does have a clan division established and currently active there (see the list above), and by the way that will also help you learn something new through playing with gamers who are friendly and who play with the same set of rules and clan code of conduct "COC" and also, go by the same clan system that you are familiar with here in Ninjas Elite - CA then all you have to do, just tell me and you will get to have the same clan rank, same clan star points earned ... etc in that other Ninjas Elite Clan division in that other game that you choose to play at. And I'll help you get started right away. Also, remember that you can return to Ninjas Elite - CA anytime you want to be back (we do have a clan divisions system that is some sort similar to nexon's gaming system "the Nexon Gaming Passport" if you will)

Also, if you have the clan rank of an officer then we will help you download the game you pick for free (even if it costs money, we will pay for it but you must be a clan officer first. Only clan elite personnel ranked officer and above enjoy such benefits and privilages when they decide to transfer)

Soon, I'll have all the Ninjas Elite clan members of all our current active clan divisions in all the games we play, come here and use our Ninjas Elite clan of CA forums, website, gsc and all the other stuff we have with us, because they are QQing over there saying that they don't have any of what we have and do enjoy in here and I cant work on having a clan wesbite, and a forums.. etc for every single ninjas elite clan in every single game we play, considering the different games with the different styles and more (that will be a nightmare of working on such things for me and NiN-Sky lol ) and also, because none of you guys use any of them anyway xD

So, don't be astonished when you see someone here on forums or on the gsc that you have never ever seen before (but you will get to know them, because their Ninjas Elite Gaming Clan division information will be displayed). The forums and the website and everything we have here in Ninjas Elite Clan - CA has changed, only to get ready for the new guests be nice to all of them guys and btw, not all of them are americans and live in the US but they are from all over the world (worldwide Ninjas Elite Gamers) and some of them don't speak english, so do get accustomed to those conditions please lol.

Soldi behave nicely please when the time comes (you are the Ninjas Elite clan division of CA CoLeader and they look up to you when they use our Ninjas Elite Clan of CA division stuff that our members do use in here (the gsc, forums .. etc). They expect you to be generous when you deal with anyone of them) and this goes the same for everyone and I don't want any problems please guys (just saying)

Nexon ToS Section 1 Subsection 3 wrote:

You will be responsible for
the confidentiality and use of your username and password and agree not
to transfer your right to use or access the Service via your username or
password to any third person (except if you are a parent or guardian to
one (1) of your minor children).

This means that giving away, selling, or sharing of accounts is a violation of the Nexon ToS.
Of course, you're free to do as you please, and the most Nexon could really do is ban you.
The reason I bring it up is because CBL affiliates are required to comply with the Nexon ToS, and I was under the impression you were planning to
apply for affiliation when we re-open affiliation soon.

@ Ion, The TOS by nexon is just for formality, so people don't say he doesnt do this or doesn't do that but still you have a point, though nexon need active gamers to make money and to be honest if people don't play everyday even if they don't buy nx then nx buyers won't play either because not that much people are playing and they will spend their money somewhere else.

So let's say meetball quits today (Which all ninjas won't like because we will miss a dear fellow ninja to us ) and no one uses his account or even preserve it for him, that will cause a dead space or gap in nexon's daily active players and take a space as well on nexon's servers, meaning nexon will be losing instead of gaining but if lets say someone of meetball's clan mates (one of us) and he will be able to trust that person of course, preserves his account for him and try like to play sometimes using it then that will be better for nexon since that account won't be inactive anymore and will not take an empty space.

The same scenario goes here in Ninjas Elite. When we get to have inactive members that will lagg us behind, this will cause inactivity issues and major problems and that's why we try to ensure 100% clan activity. If the NCCN- Ninjas Elite of CA clan division here, goes inactive then we will lose our clan division for this game affiliation with the NCCN clan divisions network, resulting in the termination of this clan division in CA and losing the time of 3years we spend building a huge clan like this, which I won't allow to happen.

Ask yourself, why should the NCCN spend their budget money (for nx events, admin salaries and more) by the NCCN head command on an inactive clan division that is really useless, and that's why I always make sure that the Ninjas Elite clan division of CA is always improving and ever evolving just not to lose our NCCN funds we get.

Your argument case only works under one condition, if that person that meetball gives his account to, steals it then he takes it for himself then that's not legit and apparently opposite to what the nexon's ToS describes.

And yeah, we are working on becoming a cbl affiliated clan, just to improve and become better than ever before though I don't really know what benefits would our clan get from that relationship with cbl. Actually when we become affiliated with cbl, that means our clan will need to hire a clan cbl admin to take care of issues concerning cbl and we will have to pay him a clan salary like the rest of the other clan admins. That will cauase a bigger clan Budget, so we really need to make sure that the benefits we get from cbl equates the sacrifices we make, but I always think highly of cbl since it's what all legit clans must do and stand for. Be clean and always try to clean CA from hackers and losers who mess up the game.

@meetball, we need to expand in different directions and establish more NCCN- Ninjas Elite clan divisions in other FPS games since most of the games we play are startegy in nature.

Always feel free to ask mate. That's why I'm here to help

Meetball cmon man don't quit D:
If you are going to quit at least tell us what game you gonna migrate to so i can pwn you there aswell

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The TOS by nexon is just for formality, so people don't say he doesnt do this or doesn't do that but still you have a point, though nexon need
active gamers to make money and to be honest if people don't play everyday even if they don't buy nx then nx buyers won't play either
because not that much people are playing and they will spend their money somewhere else.

So let's say meetball quits today (Which all ninjas won't like because we will miss a dear fellow ninja to us )
and no one uses his account or even preserve it for him, that will cause a dead space or gap in nexon's daily active players and take a
space as well on nexon's servers, meaning nexon will be losing instead of gaining but if lets say someone of meetball's clan mates (one of us)
and he will be able to trust that person of course, preserves his account for him and try like to play sometimes using it then that will
be better for nexon since that account won't be inactive anymore and will not take an empty space.

The same scenario goes here in Ninjas Elite. When we get to have inactive members that will lagg us behind, this will cause inactivity issues and major problems and that's why we try to ensure 100% clan activity. If the NCCN- Ninjas Elite of CA clan division here, goes inactive then we will lose our clan division for this game affiliation with the NCCN clan divisions network, resulting in the termination of this clan division in CA and losing the
time of 3years we spend building a huge clan like this, which I won't allow to happen.

Ask yourself, why should the NCCN spend their budget money (for nx events, admin salaries and more) by the NCCN head
command on an inactive clan division that is really useless, and that's why I always make sure that the Ninjas Elite clan division of CA is
always improving and ever evolving just not to lose our NCCN funds we get.

Your argument case only works under one condition, if that person that meetball gives his account to, steals it then he takes it for himself then that's not legit and apparently opposite to what the nexon's ToS describes.

And yeah, we are working on becoming a cbl affiliated clan, just to improve and become better than ever before though I don't really know what benefits would our clan get from that relationship with cbl. Actually when we become affiliated with cbl, thatmeans our clan will need to hire a clan cbl admin to take care of issues concerning cbl and we will have to pay him a clan salary like the rest of the other clan admins. That will cauase a bigger clan Budget, so we really need to make sure that the benefits we get from cbl equates the sacrifices we make, but I always think highly of cbl since it's what all legit clans must do and stand for. Be clean and always try to clean CA from hackers and losers who mess up the game.

I'm not going to argue this point with you, you're free to have your own opinion.
I'm simply stating the facts...

If your clan chooses to not abide by the Nexon ToS, we will not allow you to become affiliates with CBL.

http://forums.thecbl.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=16590
http://forums.thecbl.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=860

It's not a matter of who is right or who is wrong, or even if Nexon cares about their ToS.
It's the fact that we have extremely high standards for affiliate clans, and if you wish to be an affiliate, you must abide by them.

I like you guys, that's why I'm explaining it.
Most other clans I would just let them be denied affiliation and not care.
I'd like you guys to be affiliates, because I know you're legit, active, and friendly, however, I can't allow you to be affiliates if this is your stance on the ToS though.

@ Ion, no one said that we will really take over meetball's account, the dude ain't quitting and we need him here in ninjas for the upcoming clan nx events and parties to come in the future (if he is not there so who will we be celebrating with then )

and yeah, we totally understand your position as a cbl staff member and also cbl position's of abiding by nexon's ToS or not, even if it doesnt make sense or it make sense but not the right sense though (if cbl doesn't follow nexon's ToS, CBL becomes not CBL anymore I guess). And by the way, we never opposed nexon's ToS as I explained before above (we been with nexon for 3 yrs now) but actually we are helping nexon here and we deserve a noble prize from nexon because of that (we are helping a fellow ninja and helping nexon grow as well when we help preserve a fellow ninja account for him till he comes back but not "steal" it).

In Ninjas, we have a saying "Once a Ninja. Always a Ninja" and that's why members of our Ninja Clans Club Network Gaming Association "NCCN" - Ninjas Elite Clan Divisions always, when they leave, they come back again later and they always find their place preserved the same among us here and that's why we are growing to reach a clan gaming netowrk system of at least 200 members strong.

We just really appreciate and love you Ion (Ninjas love Ion ) and because of that, we will have to go then with nexon's ToS as you said (we know you support us and we trust you). If cbl really looks at this issue from this prespective,then it is ok because I want Ninjas to become affiliates of cbl and this is just for you because we really appreciate what you are doing for us Ion.

For never- ever ending friendship

Sincerely,

Ion's Team "The Ionic Ninjas"

btw, we will join your "Ion's Fan Team" on cbl for your support

@ meetball,WTF. Ion is trying to help and you don't know him as I know him ( I knew him for like a year now and our clans were affiliated because of him) and OMG, just WTF. I don't accept you calling him names (that violates our clan Code of Conduct "CoC" ) even though you might say, still that he is not a ninjas elite clan member to abide by the CoC regarding him but he holds a honory clan rank of our clan "NiN-VIP" and "NiN-SIR" ranks and he deserves respect for that. YOU CAN'T CALL ANYONE NAMES ON THIS CLAN FORUMS JUST THE SAME YOU HAVE TO DO IN GAME. WTF MAN (don't lose your mind). We are having a friendly convo here and I wanted him "Ion" to be here so it is me "who you report to not him and you must not treat a friend of ours like that"

you should make peace with him and apologize to him or I'd have to deduct clan star points for clan CoC violations ( I'm not against you but put yourself in his position and see what it feels like. He is helping you and you are a bum head). You can't be a nursing major man, if you think tight like that.

Ion is a hacker's eliminator here like us and he is legit. You should thank him for helping us and not say he is a white ass. wth

Ion. On behalf of meetball and Ninjas (even if he doesn't apologize). Accept our appologies mate

Guys, relax and it is not war here. We are all friends and meetball, I don't care about Nexon or CBL but don't speak to ion or anyone else like this again please.

and we will join you as your new clan and clan mates in the other games you play (we can even establish new clan divisions over there)

what do you guys think ?

thank you meetball, and when Ion is back, he can explain all what you want about cbl. He is a CBL STAFF and that's his job, I guess

CBL = Community Ban List
It is basically a list of confirmed reports of players that are not legit in Combat Arms and Nexon themselves sometimes use CBL to ban the hackers i think. You use it to get the unlegit players CBL 'Dirty' which means that they are unlegit by submitting your report with evidence such as screenshots and videos. They then process it and decide if the evidence is honest and true and is enough to prove that the player hacks. When you clanwarred with us, that is what i was checking for the other clan, to see if they are really legit or not. It also helps by showing what they have equipped if you want to do a no spec game

yeah

your welcome

@ meetball, yeah you should never end up on cbl or clan kick lol and Ion here is watching too and we are really working hard on cbl affiliation and that means catching hackers, reporting and being 100 % clean and legit.

But I'm really surprised you don't know CBL, how long you been playing CA ?

Holly it's cause CBL isn't really a part of combat arms and nobody usually talks about it unless they are really mad.

but Ninjas do care about CBL, everyone been here in this clan should at least know of its existence

lol

Did meetball ever actually go through with quitting or does he still play? Or what?

no, he didn't quit lol

He is playing project blackout for a while, so he can create a NCCN- Ninjas Elite Clan division there for us in that new game. So you can say he is taking a vacation from CA atm (He is not inactive but active)

well that escalated quicky ;/